Do You Use Refrigerant Leak-stop Agents?
Air Conditioning
Do You Use Refrigerant Leak-stop Agents?
Alex · 27 April 2016
It may not be the Hatfields and the McCoys or even the Democrats and the Republicans, but there are definitely two schools of thought when it comes to using leak-stop agents in refrigeration and air conditioning systems.
Some contractors have used them successfully for years and consider them practical and cost-effective ways to seal small, hard-to-find leaks in systems. Other contractors feel strongly that only two things belong in a system: refrigerant and oil.
Joseph Kokinda, president and CEO of Professional HVACR Services Inc. in Avon Lake, Ohio, said he has seen it all in his 40-plus years in the mechanical trades, and, based on his experiences, he is not a fan of leak-stop agents.
He relayed a story of recently finding a huge pool of leak-stop agent around a missed brazed joint in a large refrigeration system. The customer’s records showed the system had about 90 pounds of R-404A added to it each quarter since 2004. According to Kokinda, an acceptable leak rate for the HVACR industry should be zero, and the way to achieve that is through proper installation upfront and proper service throughout the equipment’s life.
“Most leaks in systems are there because the installer didn’t properly evacuate the system to ensure tightness,” Kokinda said. “The HVAC trades fall woefully short when it comes to properly dehydrating piped systems using micron gauges to fix a leak, especially after an installer has pulled in air, moisture, and non-condensables because of a missed joint during an evacuation procedure.”
Dave Boyd, vice president of sales and education, Appion Inc., noted compressor manufacturers will never bless using foreign materials on an air conditioning or refrigeration system, and he agrees with that stance.
“The only thing that should ever be in a system is pure virgin refrigerant and oil,” he said. He cited Kokinda’s story as a perfect example of why systems must be properly brazed or crimped, pressure tested, and evacuated.
“Unfortunately, that is not always the case,” he said. “If the EPA [U.S. Environmental Protection Agency] got its act together, it would not let systems like this be continuously topped off. The 35 percent leak rate the EPA allows for these types of systems is ridiculous.”
Some contractors have used them successfully for years and consider them practical and cost-effective ways to seal small, hard-to-find leaks in systems. Other contractors feel strongly that only two things belong in a system: refrigerant and oil.
Joseph Kokinda, president and CEO of Professional HVACR Services Inc. in Avon Lake, Ohio, said he has seen it all in his 40-plus years in the mechanical trades, and, based on his experiences, he is not a fan of leak-stop agents.
He relayed a story of recently finding a huge pool of leak-stop agent around a missed brazed joint in a large refrigeration system. The customer’s records showed the system had about 90 pounds of R-404A added to it each quarter since 2004. According to Kokinda, an acceptable leak rate for the HVACR industry should be zero, and the way to achieve that is through proper installation upfront and proper service throughout the equipment’s life.
“Most leaks in systems are there because the installer didn’t properly evacuate the system to ensure tightness,” Kokinda said. “The HVAC trades fall woefully short when it comes to properly dehydrating piped systems using micron gauges to fix a leak, especially after an installer has pulled in air, moisture, and non-condensables because of a missed joint during an evacuation procedure.”
Dave Boyd, vice president of sales and education, Appion Inc., noted compressor manufacturers will never bless using foreign materials on an air conditioning or refrigeration system, and he agrees with that stance.
“The only thing that should ever be in a system is pure virgin refrigerant and oil,” he said. He cited Kokinda’s story as a perfect example of why systems must be properly brazed or crimped, pressure tested, and evacuated.
“Unfortunately, that is not always the case,” he said. “If the EPA [U.S. Environmental Protection Agency] got its act together, it would not let systems like this be continuously topped off. The 35 percent leak rate the EPA allows for these types of systems is ridiculous.”
- Brian Baker, president of Custom Vac Ltd.in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada, said it’s unfair to lump all leak-stop products together, as some have much different formulations than others.
TWO COMPRESSOR MANUFACTURERS WEIGH IN
The NEWS asked two compressor manufacturers for their views on leak-stop agents.- Ben Majerus, manager, field systems engineering, Danfoss:
- Randy Tebbe, service engineering manager, Emerson Climate Technologies Inc.:
